Brad Fittler calls for Manly Sea Eagles and North Sydney Bears to merge and form a 'behemoth' club The Northern Eagles in 2000. North Sydney would have another chance the following week to make the grand final going up against defending premiers Canberra in the preliminary final. In that time Norths made the preliminary final 4 times but lost on each occasion. [35], North Sydney would go on to lose both finals matches against South Sydney and Newtown. So bring em back, baby, and fill Percys Bar. Halfway through the season, the Eagles even abandoned playing games at Gosford, due to a sharp decline in attendances. MORE:Cameron Smith reveals the 'difficulty' of not having a consistent halfback for the 2018 season. In the next match North Sydney had the chance to make their first grand final in 48 years if they could defeat Penrith in the semi-final. If you'd like to see more content from Matt Cleary, they'd be very grateful for your support and contribution. NRL Fans gather on the hill at North Sydney Oval to watch the North Sydney Bears. Who are these people? Norths also amalgamated with the Seagulls, a border club at Tweed Heads on the far north coast of New South Wales, the oldest provincial rugby league club in Australia. Like Illawarra got the socks in their merge and the Magpies got Campbelltown occasionally, the Bears got shafted in the merge. SUBSCRIBE for the full story. But moot it they did, these people in suits, because television told them. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Souths: 390,000. The NRL Forecast: Year of the Rooster, new-look Tigers spin their wheels, Payten's reality check, The Roars NRL expert tips and predictions: Round 1. And if you brought back the North Sydney Bears to represent these 600,000 people in the northern suburbs of Sydney and the 400,000 people of the Central Coast it would be an instant and irrevocable success. [33], On 5 September 2018, North Sydney announced that they were ending their agreement with South Sydney Rabbitohs to act as their reserve grade side and had signed a 5 year deal to join the Sydney Roosters as their new feeder club team for the 2019 season. And he said the NRL told these guys not to use the media to play things out. with other sports fans, Please enter your credit or debit card details below. Not in conjunction with any other offer. In the 2022 NSW Cup season, North Sydney finished third on the table and qualified for the finals. Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! The Great Dane Sep 3, 2018 Prev 1 2 3 4 Next flippikat Bench Messages 3,489 Sep 18, 2018 #21 Hello said: I dont know why they would need to play any games in Brooky or NSO. The Dragons have 260,000 (not counting the Illawarra). I didnt hear much more of his explanation because I was gob-dangling speechless that old mate was actually talking about Papua New bloody Guinea as a dinkum locale for a red-and-black comeback. Gee lock up him up it already happened and didn't work, I could be wrong but Im sure if seen a merged club, possibly the Northern Eagles that went well. Home Delivery is not available in all areas. But moot it they did, these people in suits, because Television as we ranted about the other week told them to. Copyright 2023 NorthernBeachesSportsTribune News. It was a wet, Autumnal day in May 1994. And they didn't. The people of Gosford preferred to wait until a home-grown team was based there. The club initially struggled to obtain access to North Sydney Oval, but council obstruction was removed and the Shoremen played their first real home game in 1910. V'landys knows the Bears remains a popular NRL brand, despite exiting the NRL in 1999 after merging with the Sea Eagles to become the Northern Eagles. If Brookie is not up to NRL standard, why does the NRL allow them to play there? Norths came into the game with an outside chance of making the finals but the loss ensured Norths finished outside the top 8 and with a bad point points differential meant they finished in second last place on the table. For all the people saying the CEO and Commissioners need to be "RL people", just remember; A solution that may work is a Bears and seaeagles in nsw Cup remain as sepeate identities and a new club takes the license, based at Gosford but with couple of games in manly/NS. So bring em back, baby, and fill Percys Bar. The club competes in the New South Wales Cup, having exited the National Rugby League following the 1999 NRL season after 90 years in the premier rugby league competition in Australia. That's lotta eyeballs. "We are here to win games and show our fans a product they can be proud of. [22], North Sydney play in the second-tier NSW Cup competition, serving as the reserve side for the Sydney Roosters. 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And it would be magnificent. And relocating an entity, be they Bears, Dragons, Sharks, Tigers, Roosters, whoever, well, knowing fans as I do, and being one of them, youd just as soon they kill your team as see it move away. L.U. Then it was the Western Bears. [15], The following year saw two separate national rugby league championships, and confirmation of the club's intention to move north to New South Wales' Central Coast. The voice of TRUE North Sydney Bears Supporters. Weve been burnt before, but were still here, and still hoping. Norths won the game 28-18.[21]. Perry suggested that the NRL should look at creating a promotion/relegation system similar to other sports around the world. A team they cant really own. But theyd be into, the Northern Sydney Bear people, all six hundred thousand of em, or whatever percentage the NRL could plane off and declare allegiance, and consume the club and love it one way or many. The Northern Eagles ultimately didnt represent anyone from Milsons Point to North Turramurra, from west Willoughby to east Epping. After being behind on the scoreboard 12-0, Norths fought their way back into the match to level the scores at 14-14. Home ground - North Sydney Oval. The Dolphins losing the Redcliffe bit is madness. There are a million reasons why. So far they have failed to gain a licence to re-enter the NRL with the latest push of buying the Manly Sea Eagles licence from Penn Sports for $6,000,000 after a failed attempt by Qatar to buy Manly for $22,000,000 a week earlier. Former North Sydney internationals Greg Florimo and David Fairleigh play a prominent role in the club's push to join the NRL. He recently told The Daily Telegraph: Wherever I go every third person asks me when are you bringing back the Bears?., Speaking specifically about the proposed 18th team in the NRL, Vlandys went on to say: One thing Ive learned in rugby league is that the Bears have an extremely popular brand. At a private event some years ago, a former senior administrator in the NRL laughed in the face of a Bears official explicating the case for a return on the Central Coast in a ground the club built, underwritten by John Singleton, coached by Wayne Bennett. Season 2015 saw a strong improvement as Norths won nine games throughout the season and returned to the NSW Cup finals, only to be eliminated by Canterbury in Week One, and finished eighth. Had another chat with a bloke involved in the Bears ill-fated bid for the Gold Coast license. Mortgage House signed a three-year deal to sponsor the Central Coast Bears, also becoming a major jersey sponsor for the Bears. Adding a team in Sydney would appear to fly in the face of the theres too many teams in Sydney argument. Jakiya Whitfeld scores a double for North Sydney Bears in her NSW Women's Premiership debut Stars on the rise: The 150 players to watch in the Harold Matthews, SG Ball and Tarsha Gale Cups North Sydney Bears' bold bid for NRL return recieves massive funding, infrastructure boost Another dominate win by our women's team! During that time, North Sydney produced arguably the greatest winger the game has ever seen in Ken Irvine. To be a part, even if its a minor part, of a northern Sydney nrl club or remain a nswrl leagues club suburban entity? Everyones sold a pup, a homeless hound that nobody owns. Hes a doctor of demographics. And watch the people stream across Miller Street and into Bear Park, and fill it full to burst, and chant like Souths fans did. The news never got better for Bears fans. And there are lots and lots and lots of eyeballs. First it was the Gold Coast Bears. For mine, sports fans, that is freakin La La Land. You already have a current subscription with us. I trudged in the rain with my Mum, Dad, and four uncles, back to the pub Percys across Miller Street. However! The record attendance for the club at Brookvale Oval was 14,521 against Cronulla on 21 July 2002. Any Questions? Hes a doctor of demographics. [28] On 20 May 2018, it was revealed that North Sydney were in advanced negotiations to sign former NRL player Todd Carney. I had a yarn once with an academic, Hunter Fujak, of University Technology Sydney. The following year North Sydney came 2nd in the regular season, but were defeated 47-7 by St George, and then lost to South Sydney 14-9 the following week.[8][9][10]. Relocation disenchants and disenfranchise existing fans, while new ones get a sort of half-arsed mob from somewhere else. Cronulla has 220,000. The Northern Eagles ultimately didnt represent anyone from Milsons Point to North Turramurra, from west Willoughby to east Epping. NRL support. The Sea Eagles fell on hard times financially and while they did manage to claim one of the prized 14 NRL licenses they did enter into a merger with hated rivals the North Sydney Bears. [13] That year they came within one match of the grand final but lost to Canberra. Couldn't he go, the Flo. Renewals occur unless cancelled in accordance with the full Terms and Conditions. North Sydney reportedly placed a $7 million bid to purchase The Gold Coast Licence and as part of the bid if they were to be successful was to rename the side The Gold Coast Bears and continue to play games at Robina plus taking two games to North Sydney Oval with one game being held against fierce rivals The Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles. Heart and soul of the North Sydney Bears Greg Florimo has weighed in on the proposal to re-merge Manly and the Bears. Perry went on to say "You need 12 and 12, so 24 key markets, and stricter criteria about those clubs around their funding model which means all of the 24 may not fit the top tier criteria, it may only be 16-18 franchises that make the cut, their catchment areas, their population, and their commercial growth, because currently I believe a lot of clubs havent been accountable as much as they should have. In 2014 facilities comprised two dining areas, function rooms, a 530-seat auditorium, a fitness and wellness centre, indoor and outdoor lounge areas, a bottle shop, a TAB, two squash courts, a courtesy bus service, a members rewards program and a multi-level car park for 320 vehicles. The Bears remain a thing. On 3 September 2017, Norths played against Newcastle in the first elimination match and were defeated 40-18 ending their season. It's from that place. And they didnt. You can read him at his, How to play NRL fantasy: Our top tips for picking the best team to beat your mates, Round 1 team lists Late Mail: Titans star tears ACL, Thompson set to miss season, Roosters duo out, Hynes hobbled. Big question would be do you brand the new merged club as one, both or neither of the two co-owners? They have also been affiliated with the New Zealand Warriors, the South Sydney Rabbitohs and the Melbourne Storm in the past.[23]. In the elimination final against Newtown, Norths lost 30-28 even though they scored more tries than the opposition. Rebranded as Norths, the North Sydney Leagues Club was established by the district's football club, the North Sydney Bears, in 1955 in a house in the Sydney suburb of Neutral Bay. And the Bears didn't get a license when using the press is what they shouldve done along with all the other weapons in their armoury to shift public opinion to the Bears. Carney spoke to the media saying "I had that option with the Bears but Souths have blocked that, I'm sure something will come up". The club was established in 1908, making it one of the original founding members of the New South Wales Rugby Football League, and one of Australia's first rugby league football clubs. They would allocate between four and six games at a potentially upgraded North Sydney Oval. Former North Sydney player and the club's leading record point scorer Jason Taylor was named as new head coach. Now Brad Fittler wants the Manly Bears. Sheesh Teddy you want to move the Roosters to the "Eastern Seabed".The gimps have to breath now and again mate.Bloody hard to knock on or flick pass 100 fathoms below the surface. Everyones sold a pup, a homeless hound that nobody owns. [51][52][53], On 22 February 2018, it was announced that North Sydney were in talks with a Western Australian consortium with the possibility of creating a franchise and to seek inclusion into The NRL. [31][32], On 25 August 2018, Norths lost their last game of the season against the New Zealand Warriors due to a last minute try scored by Chanel Harris-Tavita. But only like the two Koreas. But once your delivery is activated, youll get the next edition, hot off the press. Our Privacy Policy includes important information about our collection, use and disclosure of your personal information (including to provide you with targeted advertising based on your online activities). Anywhere from the Harbour Bridge - take in the Central Coast - that would be such a powerful area and if they could come to some sense you could encapsulate Brookvale Oval, North Sydney Oval and Gosford and have a wonderful, strong club.. The 2002 season was played under the Northern Eagles name, although effectively the club was the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles by another name. The record attendance for the club was 20,059 for the club's opening game against the Newcastle Knights at Grahame Park on 6 February 2000. [11], The nineties saw finals appearances and near misses in 1991 and 19941998. An independent voice that will not be influenced by power or money, and will not be silenced by any official heirachy. Each payment, once made, is non-refundable, subject to law. A page that will not be. North Sydney went down 14-30 giving Penrith a rematch of the 1990 grand final against Canberra. Ill never forget the first time the Bears caused me pain. https://birdssa.asn.au/birddirectory/white-bellied-sea-eagle/, 2023 R1 Thu - Parramatta v Melbourne @ CommBank, I Dont' Like Cricket, Oh No, I Love it, Yeah. People follow footy teams largely because the team represents them, their patch, their people. Goodwill. The merged club lasted only until 2002 when it split again, with the Bears not returning to first grade and being represented in the NSWRL competition, the second-tier rugby league competition, where the Bears continue to play today. Because eyeballs watching product are all. Allow up to 5 days for home delivery to commence. Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox! And they could again. Relocating rugby league clubs disenchants new fans and disenfranchises existing ones. On 11 October 2017, Shane Millard was announced as new head coach by the club. Port Moresby, for sweet Mal Meningas sake, because the Australian government would like to use rugby league to do something with regional aid or sufficiency, or something, I dont know, I didnt hear much more of his explanation because I was gob-dangling speechless that old mate was actually talking about Papua New bloody Guinea as a dinkum locale for a red-and-black comeback. Hes done the PhD, bought the T-shirt. The club was formed during the rationalisation process of the NRL by the merger of the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles and the North Sydney Bears in 2000. [40], There is a movement for a return to first-grade Rugby League for the club, with the North Sydney Bears moving to Gosford (on the Central Coast, New South Wales) and becoming the Central Coast Bears. [29][30] New customers only. After three consecutive top four finishes, season 2014 was a horror year for North Sydney, who recorded only two wins throughout the entire season and finished with the wooden spoon, eight points below the second-last placed Manly Warringah. Too right. Please check your email to receive the magic link. Not only would it be good I think its a must for the NRL to look at and this is the time, the time is right now.. Playing half of their games in Manly and half on the Central Coast, the merged was a complete and utter failure. Yet the region the catchment, where the fish are continued to grow. The club competes in the New South Wales Cup, having exited the National Rugby League following the 1999 NRL season after 90 years in the premier rugby league competition in Australia. New South Wales representative Queenslander, Bruce Walker, captained the Bears in the final of the 1976 Amco Cup. 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