It too feeds with no problems but is more work to make. Nice single shot rifle. by Old Ironsights Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:43 pm, Post Youll see how relevant lever guns are next time the bolsheviks are in the white house. If you want a short-action levergun with similar ballistics, consider: Both have threaded barrels to make them more relative and modern. Working range would be 50-70 yards. Thanks for reading! Good item. I don't think it is possible due to OAL differences. If you get one and a couple of SAA revolvers, youre almost ready for cowboy action shooting. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. They tried fixing it with a (I think it was either titanium or stainless steel insert) but the Jeanie was already out of the bottle and they were dropped. Try some Blue Dot in your .357 Mag, chronograph it and see how you like it. A few javelina even took up residence beneath a collapsed radar dish, they just tunneled under the edge and hid out all hunting season. rounds much more than the .22s. Manufacturer Cimarron Firearms br brModel 1892 Lever Action Riflebr brSKU AS621br brCaliber .357 Magnumbr brCapacity 10 Roundsbr brBarrel Length  20 Oct CIM CA2903 CIM UBERTI 1894 RIFLE 38-55 26" Brand: CIMARRON FIREARMS CO Item Number: CIM CA2903 UPC: 814230101112 Cimarron Firearms, the leader in authentic replicas from America Glock #32 (357 Sig) -- #13 rounds magazine -- #3 Magazines and loader only! Designed to increase the range and pattern density of your favorite turkey gun. lever gun that I own and have ever shot, easy on the arms and has some versatility. They were discontinued for quite awhile and JMs were going for $1200 or more. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. by groschen1936 Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:30 am, Post The .450 is like a 45-70 magnum. H110. Same 357 MAXIMUM 180 gr load in an 18" rifle barrel has a MP= 3111 psi vel 1663 FPS 357 Mag 158 gr 13 gr Win 296 1719 FPS 14" barrel MP= 2586 Should be Ev0-9 safe especially with a Triad Mount. Past 20, pressure drops off and so do velocities. . Yes, it was an easy one to fill the bill with. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. This produced a blue-white ring of fire at the gap where the bullet transitioned the jump from cylinder to the barrel. It was sweet. Lite recoil and is deadly. Above: Image courtesy of Steinel Ammunition. Ha. Head to the range this week with American Rifleman staff as they discuss a trim little repeater from Savage Arms that comes chambered for the .22 WMR cartridge. Joe Grine and I spent a day testing it agains the venerable .30-30, and the results astounded us. [2] Shortly thereafter, Dan Wesson Firearms and Thompson/Center Arms introduced firearms in this cartridge. That Blackhawk in .357 Maximum was a very short lived gun. I agree, a lever gun in the .357 Max would be quite the setup. Use only MAGNUM Rifle primers in .357 Maximum loads. Yup. The AR-15s in .223 are just glorified rabbit guns in my opinion. Pic is 5 shots with 21.0 gr, 3 of the 5 in 3/4" but all 5 is 1.5". Slower burning powders will enjoy a longer barrel more than faster burning powders. Either will give hunting accuracy better than a big percentage of "varmint rifles! SIG Sauer P365 Pistol Now Offered in .380, Casting Your Own Bullets for Lever-Action Rifles, The Staying Power of the .257 Roberts Cartridge, 10mm Firepower: Springfield XD-M Elite 3.8 Compact Pistol Review, 5 Best Long-Range Hunting Bullets Available Right Now, A World Record Attempt: Practice Round and Media Day, Interview with Israeli Defense Forces, Part 1. 8,125. Own Stock. I took photos and pointed out the issue but still didnt fix it. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-henry-big-boy-44-magnum/. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:56 pm, Post Lots of these 'oddball' wildcats and so on can be found on, http://shootingwithhobie.blogspot.com/2 rguns.html, http://drcfirearmsoutdoors.businesscata tion-rifle, http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/fw y_2012.pdf, It is currently Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:00 am. Tho i reload all my center fire calibers. A couple of decades ago, I had a New England, top-break, single-shot rifle chambered in .357 maximum with naught but iron sights. Put the .357 Maximum in a rifle or a single-shot pistol, and you see a new picture of this cartridge. Yeah both pretty awesome. I specialize in Thompson Center barrels but also rechamber CVA, H&R, and the new Henry single shots in .357 Magnum to .357 Maximum, .350 Legend, and a number of other .35 caliber cartridges such as .35 Remington and .358/.356 Winchester. The topstrap cutting kept on but eventually stopped. Im a wee bit envious. If you're gonna be stupid ya gotta be tough-. Worried about scratching that brass? Barrel shoots Hornady 180 grain XTPs very well. This is especially true if you plan to hunt or compete in silhouette competitions as lighter bullets don't maintain enough energy at longer ranges. MGM's .357 Maximum chamber has an excellent .358" diameter cylindrical throat, stepped down to .357" far, far superior to factory forcing cone chambers, and very similar to my throating. Max chambering. One example would be the Savage Model 24 combination rifle/shotgun. We cover the 357 MaximumAll you need to know about the 357 Remington Maximum! It is the perfect .357 Max rifle bullet. Both cartridges can be practical for hunting midsized, and some large game. Accurate Arms, Hercules, Hodgdon, Hornady, IMR, Lyman, Nosler, RCBS, Sierra and Speer. Found a gunsmith who examined it, he got it working again. Todays edition also features a falling block safety, so it can be carried loaded. A . True dat. Every time TTAG runs a lever gun article I want one. Would love a new one, in particular one of the Henry brand as the finishes are absolutely beautiful. 357 max has one of the best resale records out there. Best of both worlds. I dont have a horse ..so the ring comes off. But WHATEVER YOU DO, dont use FMJ for self defense. Designed to use popular handgun calibers, it allowed shooters to carry a single caliber of ammo. Cold hammer-forged barrel results in ultra-precise rifling that provides exceptional accuracy and longevity. With a tuned lever action, you can unload 10 rounds in about 3 seconds: https://youtu.be/h1Wcy8HRQUo?list=TLPQMjcwNzIwMjC2VftOeStKpQ. The comparisons have all included .357 magnum pistol velocities though. Also, those hotter loaded ammunitions usually over boast about their velocity. Obviously, a longer cartridge had increased powder capacity and greater velocity potential. The other was H-110 powder which never achieved what I thought was accurate. They should come from the factory that way. We show you how. Comments like yours on why dont you just reload are what limits some of my shooting time on the metallic silhouette range as its full of old vietnam era (and older) shooters that whine more than a Karen in the wild if you dont pick up your brass with intent to reload. I settled on Accurate 1680 propellant.
We used Small Rifle primers for all load data, and they did fine with the propellants we tested. (Winchester 94) and .22lr (Marlin 39A x2) with various accompanying sidearms. Barrel has only been to the range for load development. 1830 fps 100 yds 1427 fps 200 yds 1138 fps 158 gr. I would not mind adding a budget minded lever gun to my lot, something as accurate as my buddys. Features Sig Hard casing (2) Additonal 12 Round mag European American Armory, Windicator, Medium Frame, 357 Magnum, 4" Barrel, Steel Frame, Nickel Finish, Rubber Grips, Fixed Sights, 6Rd. by AJMD429 Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:17 pm, Post Trust me. Hot and spiced with nutmeg and cinnamon on a cold day kicks ass, https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/97/56/4e/97564e38ab918eae2103ffa40b24f0c1.jpg. If you use 158-grain bullets on game, I highly recommend softpoints over hollowpoints. $800 was a great price.. Both were chronographed in the same gun (8" Colt Python). 1. In addition to the 180-grain bullet, Speer makes a 220-grain FN that will exceed 1,500 fps in a 14-inch Contender, and Hornady and Sierra both make 200-grain RN versions that should reach 1,600 to 1,650 fps. using H4227 and H110. Through the years, the company continued to expand and . Thats exactly the sort of info i was looking for. Maximum, call Kurt Bellm at 970 433 9525. Sellier, who established the company in Prague in 1825 and began manufacturing percussion caps for use in muskets and rifles. For full power loads like 30 gr. The Carbine model features a 10-round tube and a 20-inch barrel. The .357 Magnum is probably the most widely-used revolver cartridge today, managing to thrive in an era where the wheelguns and associated cartridges are growing scarce. I think its partly because leverguns are unusual in a sea of sameness, and also because theyve still got a bit of that badass Old West cachet. Send your barrel or barrel with forend attached for chamber work. (Photo: Winchester) Free shipping for many products! Auction (145)
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Henry Big Boy All-Weather Rifle 10 RD 357 Magnum 38 Spl 10 .
H&R and Savage both chambered the .357 Maximum in single-shot rifles or combo guns. Available with matte finish on steel frames and a highly polished finish on hardened brass frames, these elegantly simple rifles feature 22" round barrels, fully adjustable folding leaf rear sight and brass bead front sights we use on the lever actions, a drilled and tapped provision for optional scope use, walnut front and rear furniture, a With nice wood This allows, again, for higher velocities and energies than the revolvers made by Ruger and Smith & Wesson. I admit that these articles about .357s have me thinking What the hell? Since this is a single-shot firearm, there is no potential for flame cutting, and the true potential of this cartridge is realized. Custom barrels made by the best of the custom TC barrel manufacturers! From pressure data with this specific bullet, we knew there were no safety issues with the slightly oversize bullet as along as handloaders used Speer data for the Speer bullet. The .357 Maximum was introduced into commercial production as a joint-venture by Remington Arms Company and Ruger in 1983 as a new chambering for the Ruger Blackhawk. Shooter's Reference Load Data for .357 Maximum .357 Maximum - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Lee #1 Lyman #1 RCBS #6 Recipe Type: Pistol Bullet Weight: ALL 100 gr 110 gr 125 gr 140 gr 158 gr 165 gr 170 gr 180 gr 200 gr Powder: ALL Accurate 1680 Accurate 4100 Accurate 5744 Hodgdon CFE BLK Hodgdon H110 Hodgdon Lil'Gun From what I hear the Henry trigger is better though. Thanks to everyone for beginning my education about lever guns! This year, H&R announced an expansion of its AR-15 lineup, bringing additional "retro" models to the market, including a 9 mm Luger-chambered Colt SMG clone, an M16A2-styled rifle and the carbine-size 723. If you have to use a long-action gun to create a .357 Maximum, then the other easier way to get the .358" bullet going that fast, is just to use a .35 Remington chambered 'factory' levergun. Returns MUST be left with the transferring dealer. It may not display this or other websites correctly. In an effort to keep the playing field dead level for all competitors, they rigidly adhered to the no-modification standard. As far as commiespretty sure it would get the job done. Seems like whenever Ive had the funds, none have been available, and when Im broke, there everywhere. As long as components are available, I can handload for it. Who knows what the future will bring and if the wife and I will one day move out of this state, but for now we have good jobs, good friends, a good church, no debt, and hope that the current angst against Newsom and the Left in general will bring about some degree of change in November. What would be the right bullet? properly aligns and supports the shank of the bullet as it enters the rifling. In addition to the rapid erosion of the barrel face adjacent to the cylinder, the topstrap was being grooved by a combination of hot gas and partially burned propellant granules. (I bought a Glenfield 30A at a gunshow for $200 about 5 years ago. Read today's "The Armed Citizen" entry for real stories of law-abiding citizens, past and present, who used their firearms to save lives. im drawn to modern firearms for their dynamicism. its a different kind of shooting, fast followups, peppering paper or spinners, quick reloads. You might find a few boxes at the Tulsa world gun show. Id stay away from used Marlins made anywhere from 2005-2015 though. Custom Mossberg 500 at the Range and Live Turkey!. I was surprised I didnt see any comments about the Henry Big Boy X. I bought this in a .357 mag at BassPro for $800 and it has the side gate for loading. The receiver was warped slightly outward, he pressed it back into line. Finding ammo can be tough for any caliber these days, but if youve already got a stash of .38 and .357 for your handguns, youve already got that covered. Pricey, but they take down to a package about 20 inches long without sacrificing accuracy and are very well made. But what if we wanted the right bullet for the occasional hyena, baboon, wallaby or racoon, say a 180-220 grain soft bullet propelled along at about 1200 feet per second? I had just enough time to look at a Winchester 92 in .357(did not like the large loop lever) and an italian copy of the 73. There are even night sights available from aftermarket suppliers. And of course the popular, accurate Dan Wesson revolvers came out with a long frame, long cylinder Max. Not a bad option if you are living in a slave state. I make do with a 336 Marlin in .35 Rem. Indeed. So there are several options available that are much less expensive than the fine examples listed in the article. Backorder OK. Slip Top 50 Smoke Ammo Box 38 /357 Mag /357 Max /38 ACP /38 Super. I'm chasing accuracy not top speed. Location. Do the same during Deer Season, and all the critters have suddenly developed a deep phobia of open meadows you can see from far off. And dont let anyone tell you that lever actions are slow. Then expand and retool , upgrade if you find its your thing. Click the link to go to the Contact page: If you choose to remove the forend, contact me first so you don't lose parts removing the forend! Brand: Winchester. Im glad I was able to get what I needed for the time being. I always attempt to stay in the mid range of the reload manual. Hodgdon starting load for the 140 gr. Yeah, what ever it is you want has a magical mystical ability of always being someplace else. Modern black rifles offer options older firearms cant compete with. Slick set up that kept a rifle close to hand and out of sight. Bagged in plastic, clean, and well oiled. You are using an out of date browser. I prefer flatnose or roundnose designs in this velocity range because they typically demonstrate better expansion than Spitzers at the same velocity. Then ordered a new 1894 with Ballard rifling, checkering, and sling studs for 350. Shout, I mean shoots, doesnt rally shout, kind of barks. They seem to have gotten a lot better in the last 5 years ago or so. I was favorably impressed with the .357 Max and the spectrum of .357 bullets that would optimize its versatility. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I got a 336BL a couple years ago and I have no complaints. Back in the day. Being a straight walled cartridge, its a snap. No joke. Even if production revolvers missed the test barrel velocities by 200 fps, they produced enough muzzle velocity to achieve good terminal performance from softpoints giving better penetration. Instead of repeating all the details, Ill just post the link below. In the case of multiple buyers for one item, customers will be given 24 hours to complete a transaction, after which firearms will be made available to the next buyer. Item Number: 534259137. Which was ".357 maximum Auto Rimless." The moniker ".357 Max AR" stuck with the round for 3 reasons, 1) it was a 5.56 case expanded to straightwall, maximizing its capacity, 2) it uses load data very similar to the 357 Maximum rimmed revolver cartridge, and 3) the "Max-AR," Auto Rimless, was really only meant for use in AR-15's . Most of my hearing is already gone, might has well get a couple of high-pressure guns to finish it off, Most of my hearing is already gone, might has well get a couple of high-pressure guns to finish it off. I have been thinking of adding a Henry Big Boy X in .357 to go along with my other lever guns, but Ive heard that .357 can be inconsistent regarding accuracy out of a carbine.
1/ picking up brass at this range is not required, only the reloaders typically pick it up. gee how many of us have heard that, for 1,000 times? Unless they went back later to get it they never seemed to care that much. https://leeprecision.com/lee-loader-45-70-govt.html. The .357 magnum has never been irrelevant since it made its debut 80 + years ago. From reloading to bullet selection, reloading powder choice and factory ammunit. Its so ugly I love it. No one currently makes guns chambered in the cartridge.Looking back on the whole incident is very interesting, and there is much to be learned. Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. Ruger Blackhawk .357 Maximum. Id tend to agree with you. I would accept the beating and get a .44 if I did. Prefer .44 Mag to .357, but thats just me. .357 Maximum loaded with Our 200g Hollow Point gas checked to produce zero leading even at full speed. Winchester Model 1873. It was for long-range pistoleeringthe IHMSA challenge of accuracy and power at range. JM Browning did design a lot of the Winchester lever action rifles. Everyone asks if they can shoot MAGnums in the .357 MAXimum chamber; however, with the .3" long jump before the bullet even gets to the throat, you can't expect great accuracy. Make sure to watch till the end. Christmas is coming. by stretch Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:47 pm, Post I would think it would beat the .357 Maximum, honestly. Apples should be in pie. It can be used against medium to large game, with hunters disagreeing over its efficacy for dangerous game such as bear. Discussion forums for GunBroker.com users. Cartridge is a mite better now than 3 years ago, IMO. If you want to. That 2000 fps 357 mag load is 1100 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle. Ive had a similar experience. I would think this problem could be cured by a visit to a dependable smith. by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:46 am, Post If its an American classic you want, the Winchester Model 1892 Carbine is about as classic as it gets. H&R and Savage both chambered the .357 Maximum in single-shot rifles or combo guns. These comments are directed at the people say there is no ammo to buy, or its too expensive. Of the 32 models of 357 lever gun they offer, there are precisely zero units currently available for sale. Jim Rhodes Greenville, Al. They also make a valid home defense rifle AND a great truck gun, to keep the Karens and Kens from whining ASSAULT RIFLE. Ruger, super Blackhawk 357, maximum 10 1/2 inch barrel in excellent condition and fire very little comes with original box and papers. My revolvers and levers arent in .357 Mag. Go for a hike in the woods or mountains and you see deer most times of the year. Extremely accurate, small groupsit reminds me why I got into shooting in the first place. In May I went to Utah and took my brother, his son, and a handful of their friends out shooting. Funny, but what popped into my head was Arkansas and Alaska arent benighted states. Detachable rotary magazine features a unique rotor to separate cartridges and . (I do have a Ruger LCR that was pretty good out of the box and a 50 year old 1911 that are in the running.). A broken case was stuck in the chamber and a bullet a ways down the barrel. The MAGnum case with the bullet seated out holds exactly the same charge weights as factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! by awp101 Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:25 pm, Post But its the old Supply and demand scenario. Second, they take ordinary .357 ammo and produce ballistics youd hardly believe. can you find sace for a backpack sized tote? by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:25 pm, Post For me, a Max levergun would only be desirable if it would cycle Mags and possibly Specials as well. Maybe this shortage will get more people into the handloading business. That is fast. Try it you won't regret it. Great for when wearing gloves. Learn the difference between revolvers and semi-auto pistols and what makes them different. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Metallic silhouette shooters found it both accurate and very good at taking steel plates off a rail. Several years back I wanted a light weight all weather stainless steel single shot rifle chambered in 357 magnum, and the Rossi was the answer. The 350 Legend is faster, more powerful, and can be used in more guns than the .357 Magnum. She relegates me to my Win 94 trapper in 45 Long ColtI guess I get by. And of course, such a gun would have to have a longer frame for the longer cylinder for the longer cartridge. In Stock. Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Flintlock Misc, Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Matchlock/Wheellock Misc, Century Arms International (CAI) - Rifles, Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Rifles (perc), Winchester Rifles - Modern Bolt/Auto/Single, Winchester Rifles - Pre-1899 Bolt/Single Shot, Century Arms International (CAI) - Pistols, Colt Automatic Pistols (.25, .32, & .380 cal), Colt Single Action Revolvers - Modern (22 Cal. HINT: Academy has Henry Steel Big Boys in stock today, July 29th, for $730. Whats different about the pre-lawyer ones? Although some may not find this particular gun relevant, I think there are lots of pluses. The "U.S. Rifle, Caliber .30, Model of 1903," better-known as the M1903 Springfield, has become one of the most popular U.S. military small arms to collect. I have shot a buddys 357, think it was Italian, a couple times as he is into Cowboy Action..not my thing but fun to watch! While the Colt Model 601 was the first AR-15 to be mass-produced, there were several design variations that came before during the platform's development. Bare essentials. Here in Ohio legal deer hunting rifle cartridges are straightwall cases from .357 to .50. If theyll go ahead and put the new loading gate on it (which I expect they will before long) I think Id probably move it straight to the top of the list. took a good cleaning and now it shoots very well. At least it can use use the same bullets as my Smiths. My lever lust may remain unquenched. I have a H&R single shot .357 maximum. Like Chris, Doc, and Tycer said - you've already got the 35 Remington - which is, I believe the question was "does anyone make a Levergun for the 357 Maximum". |
Cheap factory 158gr LRN is subsonic and stupid quiet for those that are complete hereticslike meand suppress their levers. The last time I was at the range with my marlin in 45-70 all eyes were on meeveryone else shooting the newest AR/AK and here comes this doofus with a lever action thumper. A hollow-point 357 magnum bullet combines maximum weight retention and terminal expansion to provide threat-stopping power . Because of this, many hunters are realizing the potential of the cartridge for hunting medium to large game. What I found odd or maybe not is that after all the semi automatic handguns, rifles and pump action shotguns were gone no one was buying lever actions. No box or papers. by Old Ironsights Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:54 pm, Post Discuss. If you compare a 16" 30-30 to a 16" .357 Mag, the difference is even smaller. by BAGTIC Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:14 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Suppessor equiped lever guns with Subsonic plinker ammo are a hoot to shoot. Just like the CSBL, it has a 16- barrel length and an 8-shot tube magazine, an enlarged loop and swivel studsbut this model also adds a threaded barrel for adding a suppressor. SAAMI documents dated 2005 list it as inactive.. Order your barrel directly from Match Grade Machine, made however you want with their standard chamber or for $125 additional post paid to you, custom chambered by me, Mike Bellm, to my specs for best accuracy with the full range of bullet weights and types.
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