But it is not hard to see that the way this tape and her confession were obtained was not legitimate. And she should be allowed parole! Mr. Then they just got shut out. Blood spatter is not an exact science, and is interpreted differently by experts. Either way he could NOT have seen who shot him unless he has eyes in the back of his head. This test confirmed Diane had not held a gun. Page 40 of Case History. In her book Heart Full of Lies, Rule took so many liberties with the facts that Liysa Northon sued her. Is. 4. An attractive woman whose two children were killed in mysterious circumstances and the cops decided to go after her. (LOL!! Where is the blood spatter on Diane? Ur not showing facts that Ann Rule lied n misled n ruined lives with. But I am realistic. I dont. It took a lot of time to research this case and present the other side of the coin. The fact that Dianes injury was way more serious than they tried to pretend? To Lori Considering that the daughter she murdered will never get a second chance, it will never be long enough unless its for her entire life. She has an excellent conduct report and never reacted violently to any of the harassment from other inmates. They would have welcomed them with open arms. The notes taken daily by the nurses became a point of contention at trial. Dianes daughter started saying that she did not know who shot them right when she got adopted. This is also what the state did to her. Was that Annes fault as well? .well yay for youtubelol..is when I first heard her in old interviews. It was cited that she keeps her emotions close to the vest. I hope they have. Master Chief actor Pablo Schreiber has said he won't do an impression on the Halo TV show, suggesting he won't try to . Our legal system is not perfect. There are many cases where investigators jump to conclusions either because in their gut they think they know or pressure to make an arrestand i guess with all the attention this case got they gave their gut and the public what they wanted. Whether or not Mrs. Frederickson could have attacheda clinical lab to Dianes not being herself the day the Detectives pressured Diane to accompany them, the fact is Diane was clearly suffering the residual effects of that chemical poison in her system. Why is there virtually no info on him? This blogger apparently believes anything she hears to support her inaccurate theory that Diane Downs was falsely accused and convicted. Mr. Jagger read the report and said, you were right. What about the fact that they never found the gun? Gunpowder is one of the toughest stains around, when it comes to removing it from clothes. Hysteria. Or that the sketch did not resemble the suspect enough? Her case was too public and they are afraid of public backlash. It really doesnt matter that much of the trial and due process was faulty, because its so obvious that Diane is the one who did it and that justice was served. As a suggestion, I would love to see a like or dislike button for each comment. She'd also shot herself in the forearm. Every single one of these questions matter. He could then have initiated the licensing process to foster and then adopt the children. On May 19, 1983, Diane and her kids visited a friend to look at her new horse, and then went for a drive; not at all unusual for this family not living according to middle class rules. In fact, watching that was the first time I heard her voice and saw her presence, it was a year or so later that old interviews showed up on YouTube. I think she was the only one there that night with her children. Christie Downs was eight-years old when she was injured and nine-years old when she testified. What would have been the conclusion to have drawn without this hate campaign? If the goal was to get rid of them, why didnt she emulate her lesser half in this matter? Actor Robert Blake was found not guilty of the shooting murder of his wife. I will talk to Dianes brother. The fact that the children were in no way protected by Child Protection Services is undeniable. The blog tries to bring balance and more objectivity to a case that was TOTALLY one sided and still is. I asked her brother James an answer to your question. So the hell with no gun, no GSR, no blood and no witnesses except a sick child who denied knowing who shot them until she could not anymore and happened to be adopted by the prosecutor; making it look like she could never change her mind and reveal that she has no memory of the shooting and maybe have the case reversed. Page 35 of Case History. Clickhere to read about faulty ballistics.. For the upcoming Halo TV show, original Master Chief voice actor Steve Downes was recast, despite Cortana voice actor Jen Taylor reprising her role from the iconic video game franchise. I do not have to put any statement advising people that I am about to present the neglected aspects of the trial. Diane had a few lovers, which Knick refused to acknowledge (Appendix 81, pages 1508, 1520). It would never happen todaynever. It could have been very different at almost any other time or with any other attorneys or juries too. Did she act like a average person? Go to the hate groups for that. The diagnosis of the psychiatrist for the state is also clearly documented. How ironic. But without proof, Diane couldnt implicate Steve Downs any more than she could shoot him as he violated a restraining order threatening to beat her AGAIN. Critics said she deliberately became pregnant in order to garner sympathy from the jury. 4. I wanted to ask you something on this case. The case is old and the blog dated, but it is never too late to respond. In my blog, I was referring to the case of Liysa Northon whose suit was dismissed, but when Ann Rule tried to sue the Seattle Magazine, its editor and Northons husband for their article on her shoddy work, she lost and had to pay restitution. What I explain in the blog is that the fact that Foote is the one who removed the children from Dianes care is exactly why he should NOT have been presiding over her murder trial. Mostly, because it was poorly investigated and they focused on Diane solely the minute they met her. She could have stayed on the side of the road. Her lover and former husband testified against her but it did not represent evidence but character assassination. Being interested in a subject without bringing emotions to the table is always the most important step. She learnedat a young age to keep her emotions in check and to always present a strong and brave front. I watched and worried through her escapeto find her childrens real attackerthat bushy haired stranger . Lack of blood spatter is not evidence of innocence Especially when a shooter is leaning in and shooting into a box (car) while standing outside. He hired Jim Jagger on the 1st of June 1983, 11 days after the shooting. As for where he is now, we'll be honest, we're not completely sure. They had him micromanaged, and with the testimony of little Christie they were in business. Right?? No forensic evidence pointing to her, just conjecture based on how mothers should act. The detective said if Diane would just testify against Steve Downs, she and her children could go home and try to put their lives back together. Except for Paul Cortez. The police admitting on the stand that after 2 weeks, they stopped looking at suspects appears to be a fact. If, as Proctor said, it was exchanged right away, and the other Ruger was subsequently stolen by Steven, how was it remotely possible for him to have this info? So if we started judging people harshly for their flaws, it would never end. And some are even contradictory: shes mentally ill, but also not mentally ill; the site owner wants to focus on pure facts, yet ignore other facts; things happened in court, but those are irrelevant to what else what also happened in court, etc. How about dads side of the family? So it would be logical to conclude that it would have left residues if anyone had shot at least 6 times. They lied about the ballistics. And the state refusing to turn them over to the defense? Evidence or not, they were going to do their best to put her away for life. Anyways. The Case of Liysa Northon Who Said True Crime Does not Pay? If you listen to the recording, Christie clearly says I dont know who did it. She was asleep, thats why. This unexpected proposal took Diane by surprise at a large family gathering. The fact that she drove there and it saved the life of two of her children should give anyone pause. If it was not such a high profile case, Diane Downs would have been paroled a long time ago: speculative, Ill stop there. If she was such a manipulative person, she would not be in prison for life, would she? It did not matter that they had no evidence; they did not like her attitude and she was going to pay for it. Lise lasalle you mention THIS When she (Diane) resisted, he shot her kids and struggled with her. In case you did not read the blog: During Dianes examination at trial, Fred Hugi said in front of the jury, in the form of a question, that she had been diagnosed as a deviant sociopath. Instead, there is blood splatter on the ceiling of the car. That didnt seem right so we wrote a letter to Mr Hugi with a request for visitation rights. I guess Diane forgot to have that part engraved on the Unicorn. Thank you for presenting a side of the story & case apart from the usual narrative. Just a thought. There was no question in Dianes mind that Knick would take another mistress if she married him, and that hed move on again. Why did CK shoot the kids multiple times and DD once? If it was not such a high profile case, Diane Downs would have been paroled a long time ago, considering her good behavior and lack of priors. It is beyond belief that the State of Oregon allowed the prosecutor to adopt those children. Dilantin is known to cause mental confusion and you can check it online, but consider the dosage she was on and it needs no clarification. Her mom is still alive and would love to have contact but respect that they wont. They are the ones who considered Dianes children as, To this day, his record is mixed; his law license was suspended for, Belli filed a motion for a 2-week extension to familiarize himself with the case because he had to be in Italy, and declared Diane innocent in a press conference, but Foote denied the motion and declared . Yes Gigi, the same judge who had removed the children was also presiding over her trial. Open ended sentences like this are meant to provide a means of control and public safety when considering dangerous offenders who may pose a continued risk to the public. The absence of the gun or gun powder residues on Diane is fact. Ffs maybe u should go back to writing screenplays. That poor girl. A fact strongly denied by Diane and by the nurses reports. He didn't indicate whether Downs would appeal. So I start with that bit of history in mind. If Diane was bipolar, the non-stop chatter would have been inherent to the situation: bipolar wasnt a diagnosable condition at the time of her first trial. It had nothing to do with the evidence of the case and represents useless labeling anyway. Most were married because Diane had no desire to remarry. After asking her to have an affair, he kept vacillating between his wife and her. When a unicorn and hungry like the wolf make their way into a court room during a high profile trial, its a red flag. Needless to say, you seem to have a problem with the American justice systemnot each individual case. After giving birth to . Only after these avenues are exhausted should non-relative placement be looked at. It became judicial kidnapping to obtain a coerced confession: inflammatory Steve knew Danny was not his biological child and left Downs. That makes no sense. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. I hope she is granted parole. Not giving you free reign here. time it was the situation was down. The bitches own daughter identified Downs as the shooter. I will post it when I get it. Were they involved in the plot too?? If you use this mixed water, you can lift off a gunpowder stain.. But he overestimated the kind of people that would go along with this soap opera. Her power to manipulate is why she is where she is to begin with. Surprisingly, he accepted the new child and learned to love him dearly. Yes, I had filed for divorce and then I canceled it. Women who were somewhat normal begore, get pregnant, have the baby, then drown it a toilet, kill or beat the the baby in the first year..shaking or other means..its less often then notbut better believe these type of cases are reported constantly now on social media. Litigating at the Supreme Court in . HUGE conflict of interest. She goes on to say that she has deep regret and mourns the loss and death of her children. I do not care if the bushy haired stranger made no sense or if they could not explain the why of the tragedy, I do not care if she was madly in love with a guy because all that counts is proof and evidence in a court of law, and there was definitely a reasonable doubt. And in fact this would have been about the time that Charlene broke a bottle of liquor that you had. The most recent tape of her daughter is not admissible because it is never allowed to bring out tapes that were obtained this way. They rarely are, especially in the US. Years later, Christie was heard saying by classmates that she did not know who shot her. $20.00 at Gamestop $37.01 at Walmart $59.99 at Best Buy. Hi Nanette, it is not a matter of being gullible. tell someone else. As her brother mentioned, it would not be that farfetched for his sister to stop for someone considering that she was a person who lacked impulse control and the era. They believed the testimony of her former boyfriends who were far from stellar individuals. Some of your facts arent facts at all. Diane was pregnant during the trial so if found not guilty, how would she have regained the love of her life? For all my life I have thought I was not that smart, but now I can tell myself, hey cheer up could be worse. Jeff, you mention being harsh as if there was a justification for it. On May 30, 1983, the McKenzie-Willamette Hospital Chaplain told Dianes father to hire an attorney because the State was going to take his grandchildren away. She attacked her husband and ripped his neck open in a jealous rage (Appendix 81, page 1520), tearing from his neck the gold chain he still wore from his first marriage (a gift from his first wife). You cannot skip due process because of mob mentality. Seems to me that if that part of the story were true, and she really wanted to find her childrens shooter, she would have provided that information. The blogger continues, I am not one sided. I think that the US system is barbaric Besides, none of those diagnoses are illegal. Mainly because the courts have to give every chance possible and all the services necessary to the bio family to try to preserve the relationship. Much worse. I am all for reviewing facts and getting a decision overturned in cases of corrupt decisions, and many people are on your side and find these cases totally worth their time. The woman shot her children. The kind of TV series that they produce on high profile crimes will make sure to turn public opinion. She is nowhere near being paroled and if she admitted guilt, I am not even convinced they would release her. It means you dont orphan the kids. I try to bring up the elements that were totally ignored. Teams of people and detectives combed the area for months looking for the gun but it was nowhere to be found. And Hugi seemed pretty sure he would get what he was asking for. Can you imagine your little boy growing up to beat to death (with his bare hands and boots) Is she referring to her ex husband? I do not have to state anything at the beginning of the blog. It was never a slam dunk. They came up with an explanation as to why this was the wrong gun but the jig was up. Instead of talking about her being locked up for so long, answer some very legitimate questions regarding this case. The authorities wanted to see them mourn and fall apart. If she was the shooter, it had to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. To this day, his record is mixed; his law license was suspended for 6 months in 2011, and there was also talk of a suspension in 2015. If you read the blog, you will see examples of his lack of dedication. After all, Cheryl Downs is basically serving a life sentence with no possibility of parole for her mothers crime. It should be illegal to use real names and facts from a criminal case while influencing the publicto falselybelieve that the whole content of the filmis true. They are still part of their birth family. I might not have put enough information to your liking, but I stuck to what came out at trial and not the fantasy factory coming from the state, the media and Rule. Instead, it is Diane who fought to keep her children. During Dianes examination at trial, Fred Hugi said in front of the jury, in the form of a question, that she had been diagnosed as a , Anne Rule made a big deal of a brass unicorn engraved with the childrens names that Diane had purchased. I then question how she would not have blood splatter if she shot them inside the car at close range. One of them named Angel, called 15-year-old Christie on the phone. In fact, Knick admits Diane took that gold chain as collateral against a $500 LOAN she made to him. I must humbly admit that I had not questioned the facts of the case before readily accepting this image of Diane as a cold blooded killer. According to Rule and the court, the unicorn was a memorial to her children that she purchased after premeditating their murder. Sometimes it takes until late in life for connections to be made again. Mr. Jagger failed to challenge that competency. Page 40 of Case History. For example, the abhorrent decision regarding Keli Lane: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.whimn.com.au/talk/news/why-i-think-keli-lane-should-not-be-in-prison/news-story/069a09c79589645c48de5bfa91e4ca0f. I think that looked at through a more objective lens, many aspects of the Downs case are highly questionable. 3. You have a photo of Diane before the parole board. Fair question. They should have had ongoing contact and been placed with family as soon as they were out of the hospital and they never should have been interviewed without their own attorney (Guardian ad Litem) present. And Steven would hunt her down anyway and charm his way back into her life. I think you may be right that she is likely still locked up due to her diagnoses of antisocial, histrionic and narcissistic, but again, no one would care and this crappy diagnosis wouldnt have been bought and paid for if not the high profile nature of the case. DA Pat Horton declared early in the game to the local paper that the search for the bearded stranger was not very high on their priority list.. They hardly investigated any other lead after a couple of weeks. I agree that the verdict may have been very different. The next morning Diane appeared in the courtroom with a police report written by Detective Pond a year earlier, in which Ms. Patterson was sure Diane had gone nowhere near the bathroom the night of the shooting (Appendix 62). It is documented in the blog where I give the source In the 1996 Federal Petition, you can find the Anatomy of Brainwashing that can answer any question on this subject. Yes, Christie said she did not know who did it. Why would anyone think Christie could remember the night of the shooting anyway?? It could be argued that he developed a relationship with the children and genuinely wanted them to join his family. Like I said, the 2 years make it a bit more of a gray area. Click here to read the complaint. The car was splattered with blood, but Diane had none on her. Also, I agree he does look a little like the actor who played Fred Hugi but I think it might be a coincidence. From the time Diane was a teenager, when a physician ordered visterol in an emergency room situation, it has been documented again and again that sedatives ingested while Diane is in pain, provoke a chemically induced hysteria in her. They made her out to be a monster, but in Beckys case, it becomes redeemable. The problem was, Diane has a long-documented history of adversely reacting to tranquilizing drugs. ), years in solitary confinment Whats wrong with us?! She is a monster and belongs in prison for the rest of her life. As it was getting dark and the young ones fell asleep in the car, their mother decided to head home. As soon as Diane was found guilty, Hugi demanded that Diane be evaluated by a psychiatrist before sentencing so they could declare her a dangerous offender and give her a stiffer sentence. and so on. They were treated very badly in this matter. Considering the circumstances, it is difficult not to be a bit cynical about this grand gesture. Downs was constantly provoked by inmates because of the nature of her situation, and she never once attacked or defended herself in a violent manner. The blog I read is all about the improprieties and flat out misconduct in Dianes trial (and the way Ann Rule profited off of it with fiction). Guilty or not, we should know better than to use the justice system as a psychic tool when theres not enough evidence. But the fact that the prosecutor called her a deviant sociopath in court without any assessment became another nail in her coffin. My opposition to movies about true crime stories is unshakable. Its as if they cant control it. I appreciate the way you dont try to determine guilt or innocence in your blogs but instead focus on due process and the right of all to a fair trial. I am glad that some articles remain. Would you know at what speed you are going if you were shot and driving with wounded children in the car? 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