Waiting for the calls, then the visits. We collect information from a smaller group to produce estimates for the entire population. This all happened while I was watching from my porch. The second time I got a call, I followed the recommendation of a fellow patriot. Just open the door, answer their questions, and they will forget about you and your insignificant existence for another 10 years. I then slammed the door shut. It sure the hell is. I am a tax paying, hard working citizen, who would die fighting for my country and my rights, but didn't our forefathers already settle this fight? They will report any threats or harassment (allegedly), so be careful how you respond to them. this is a new one. Personally, I want to know how many rental houses are in my town, I want all the representatives we deserve and I also really like looking at the 1920 and 1930 census to learn about my ancestors. I want to thank you for this site and for all of the posters sharing their experiences and offering insight and information. Thank you for your interest in the age, racial composition, daily habits, and private information regarding the private lives and private property of the members of my household. So I stand up to them and say NO, you don't need my private information in order to serve me better! I have little doubt that the ACS data is already in Israel's possession. I was just contacted by a representative for the Census Bureau at my home and asked to answer his questions. It's hard to believe that a patriotic, high school social studies teacher, and law-abiding citizen, such as myself, could be compelled to suggest such civil disobedience--but here I am, and hear me loud. It is just such a sick country now. He told the guy to just make something up. I live in upstate New York and was just threatened that the census taker would be back with the police and his supervisor because I refused to fill out the form. Horrible, and a total violation of my rights across the board. This is a bunch of crap. Honor opt-out requests promptly. What is this survey? I refused to tell them financial info or how much I pay on a power bill. Under Washington's scheme, new electric vehicle tax credits apply to those with final assembly . I now have multiple visits to my home every day, followed up by threatening calls with an hour of each. Maybe you'll get a new hospital! I assumed I did it wrong, so I filled out the second one and sent that in. Something is wrong in this country when the hard working middle class is getting stomped out from top to bottom. We will not be participating. Once on Saturday, once on Wednesday, three times yesterday, and so far once today. It feels good to see so many of you willing to take a stand against this invasion of privacy. This info is also for the number of State Senators and Congressmen. I guess I now have a 20 percent chance of getting a Census visitor next. I filled out the decennial census. The first two (18 U.S. Code 3571 and 18 U.S. Code 3559) simply deal with classifications of federal offenses and associated fines, but contain no reference to the census or American Community Survey. Your responses to a survey represent your household or business and others like yours and cannot be replaced by simply selecting a different household or business. Have you ever filed taxes? If the IRS has no info on you, you're illegal anyway. 1. I asked who he was and he attempted to open the screen door. Thus, if they want a specific task force to track illegals and tax invading americans, then so be it. Thank you for answering, I am grateful for this site, but hesitant to put email addy, or other info about me. I started my business for 75 cents. Haven't heard from the ACS people, "government man", or my dorm supervisor since then. About a month ago (August 2010) I received my first ACS phone inquiry. Browse our topics and subtopics to find information and data. 4) If they do not agree to answer any personal questions, assume the Hannibal Lecter voice and say "Tut, tut, tut. You aren't getting mine! We didn't send in the regular 2010 one and they came by the house. I am a retired airline captain and a former captain in the U.S.A.F. The employees of the Nazi Gestapo and Brownshirts said the same thing. I did some research over the summer after I found out about the ACS from reading a WSJ article. We have always taught him not to talk to people he does not know and never give out information. The old surveys don't ask for much more than that (other than birthplace). To learn more about the legal authority for a particular survey, you can search the Census Bureaus list of surveys. He came by every hour starting at 6 Thursday. Is that something you would want to get into the wrong hands? She left, but will I be hearing from her again? The ability of our federal government to properly train temporary, and permanent, employees in PII and cyber security are not well represented in recent historical accounts. Don't fill out anything if you don't want the public to know some of your private information. Gartner. Since many citizens lack basic knowledge of our Constitution and federalist system, they are easily manipulated by media and academic elites who tell them that judges are the absolute and final arbiters of US law. I have called the local census office for our area and filed a complaint. Direct taxes are inherently unfair because one state, with ten percent of the population, might be one of the richest states while another state, with the same percentage of the population, might be one of the poorest. Now let me get my cell phone fully charged and ready for the doorbell to ring. They're not authorized to do that. --Lazarus. I made the decision right then and there that I would not respond to an ACS survey under any circumstances. Can anyone please tell me if I am obligated to answer these questions. In the case of direct taxes (a direct tax is a tax on property based on ownership), this provision requires Congress to apportion the tax among the individual States based on population. What? I thought to myself, now they are going to harass them. I live in a high-rise condo building (where I rent), so let them come get me. Further, congressional rules on enforcement were controlled by the Republican Congressional Committee overseeing Census Bureau Operations, when the Republicans controlled congress. 12286: Don't worry, and don't respond. What do you really think they use the information for? I am a 64 year old woman, living alone. In 2000 I placed a large sprinkler by my front door. Well they stopped today. Nothing illegal about that! Glad I found this thread! Salesforce. 10 minutes ago I felt apprehensive. Why am I being asked what my age and birthdate are? Bunch of grumpy anti social loners. By 2020, more than 40% of all data analytics projects will relate to an aspect of customer experience. I didn't argue or discuss it, just stated the truth and hung up immediately. Due to a likely technicality, I received this, with the wrong address. If that's so, why is there a space for your name, date of birth and so much other identifying information that a blind man could identify the author of the answers. If every household in the nation received this survey at once, there might be more of any outcry and uproar for our government to cut out the nonsense or face a revolution! It is so obvious that the same person keeps responding over and over here. im a normal 27 year old female, trying to live my life. But seriously, It's not about conspiracy theories. They have no authority to uphold the ACS laws and they WON'T take action b/c they KNOW if this survey got out in the media it would be eliminated by public outcry. Poster 188. He had to come through a closed gate. I am 66 years old and I have never participated in any census. I know that some of you were harassed by the census folks. We have starving, homelessness, government corruption. I already returned that info in the original census last year. 5) Arrest criminals from Acorn and stop our tax dollars from funding Acorn and other criminal organizations like them. And the big 2010 census is coming and they can't have ANY negative publicity. I propose: 1) Grabbing your video recorder and recording the entire exchange. Spending good taxpayer dollars on another social joke. I called his supervisor. When I "googled" the survey one of the first things I saw was "Is the American Community Census legitimate?" There are friends who ask me if I want to put up with the harassment from the government -wouldn't it be easier to just give in and give the information to them? We are entitled to "Quiet Enjoyment" of our homes. I was willing to answer the survey at first - thinking it would just be a headcount but then I saw the rest of the questions. Lastly, if you are a proper pet owner, then you consider you dog, cat, etc. Go Tea Party! Search the Census Bureau Staff Directory to find the contact information for our employees. At this point, according to the Census Bureau, a non-respondent has a 21% chance of being personally visited by a survey taker. I guess we'll just wait and see. I hope it's not too late for us. With identity theft on the rise, many are concerned. Today another call demanding to know my name and telling me I would be fined. They wanted to know how much we made, where we made it (we're self employed)but the scary part was that they ALREADY KNEW WHAT WE HAD MADE. He was shocked and said it was required by law. For the information of the people here, Congressman Poe (Texas) and Bachmann (Minnesota)have introduced legislation to eliminate the ACS intrusive questions. Choose the types of emails you'd like to receive or unsubscribe from. (812) 218-3144, Jeffersonville Contact Center. I ignored her as I was outside with my kids. As an employee of The U.S. Census Bureau,I too share privacy concerns,but I must say there's a tremendous amount of misinformation and paranoia here. They have to get past the doorman first. He didn't know what to think about that (needed to check the law), and took no action. We will ask the rep to make it clear what will happen if we don't answer the survey, then verbally accept the consequences. I feel kind of sick too. in the '90s the Commerce Dept decided that I was a resort or apartment complex owner and harassed me to fill out a survey detailing my expenditures on repairs, income reports etc. Fine. This is how those rich people are rich, those "powerful" people are "powerful", and those happy people are happy. I am sickened by all of it. I said, what makes you think I'm going to turn over my personal information to a total stranger knocking on my door. So today I found this census worker peeping tom at my windows, which face the back woods. Has anyone really admittedly shown that proof that they got fined? Well its going to get colder before I give them the info. I told that I had already fulfilled my Constitutional duties as a citizen with my mailed-in short form, and then told her the ACS and her harassment of me in my home is unconstitutional. Ridiculous. It says it needs to know whether you have flush toilets or running water so they can manage . I did not receive the additional questionnaire. As a current enumerator I'd like to say thanks to the great majority of people who have courteously answered census questions. They can't take my free will. I didn't believe him until he showed me the book. Do you have a debit card, credit card, a loan, a job, own a house, a car, driver's license? I told them they were barking up the wrong tree and they need to follow the U.S. Now they called again and wanted to ask these questions over the phone. Well, after many different phone calls, starting with the one on the census form, I still do not have an address to where to send the $100. That means *not* having our door pounded on constantly and yelled at that we are violating the law by not allowing these rude, despicable low class jerks into our homes! That's four times today and it's just past noon on Saturday. So why do they need how many rooms are in the house, what I use to heat the house, what amount was my electric bill and so on and so on? The flat reading followed a 0.02% decline in January from December, showed data from the China Index Academy (CIA), one of the country's largest independent real estate researchers. I told him "We're done here". this is the letter I sent the census bureau. What can I expect? (The car had to pass my house to get to the neighbors.) On the back of the ACS form it states: "Respondents are not required to respond to any information collection unless it displays a valid approval number from the Office of Management and Budget.". I can understand the desire to keep the information private. And to poster 201: the survey is much more intrusive than asking how many people live in your household. 3) If by some chance they go for it, ask them the most embarrassing, asinine, or silly questions you can think of. thanks for answering back with any helpful info. How about the number of cars that are normally in your driveway if everyone is home? So, the government says that it needs to, you know, know what time you leave so they can manage traffic. At least they are working instead of collecting welfare checks. I am glad I am not myself the lunatic fringe. So glad I found this site. The second visit, I handed him a sealed census envelope, and he came back and left a note that the computer kicked it out. As a retired LEO, state law keeps all my info private, unless court ordered. Outraged in Maryland. do we have a hot water heater? So when/if I get a visit, I can inform them of this. Commission, 32 Fed. Received two survey forms, three letters and two visits at my door and awaiting a third based on a lovely letter I received yesterday announcing yet another visit. Then we started getting the calls. I responded to the ACS. 6 The typical opt out activist is a highly educated, white, married, politically liberal parent whose children attend public school and whose household median income is well above the national average. Hard to believe they did not receive it or they lost it. He said he'd pass that along. Just hang tough and they will eventually leave you alone. Me and my family were properly counted on census day 2010. Shame on you! Good for Michele Bachmann for saying she wasn't filling this out. I completed the survey. The census cannot ask or get your social security number in any way and you can supply any name you want. For example: In addition to the decennial census count, the Census Bureau conducts over 100 surveys that collect statistics on households, businesses, hospitals, and more. Um, no they don't have the right to fine you. A few days ago had a census worker knock on my door. I tossed out both copies of the ACS long form. No, they aren't good people just trying to make a living as some might say. What time did this person usually leave home to go to work last week? United we stand divided we fall. There is no legal obligation for you to answer their questions. We got our second ACS in the mail along with a follow up postcard. Don't fill it out. PLEASE let's get them back once and for all! While. What Percent of the US Population do Doctors Comprise? Wake up America! For example, lets say in 1790, two years after the ratification of the Constitution, Congress prepared a budget and decided to impose a direct tax to raise the needed revenue. I suspect the caller will hang up and take you off the list. Now there was the random insanely long, for one out of four, which I think is totally unfair. We are all Americans of the human race. We will then see them online. During the past year and especially with the current administration in D.C., I am so angry and distrustful of our government. Asking for federal money or federal representation is a huge mistake. Although I suspect it's really only one or two of you. Don't get mad because many of us don't want to fill out the form. So give them a call or send an e-mail and see if someone there can help stop the phone calls. I then yelled at him to "beat it" - (since he could see me and it was obvious that I knew he was there.). Maybe they should change the name of the survey to "American Communist Survey". Wow! I also feel for the ones who fought and died for us, who spit in their graves. Get every bit of info on that person I can (don't forget to do a criminal search) and call them and start asking them questions they will find offensive and question them about their personal life from what I find out about them. Yet, it seems lately that these rights are being taken from the American people. Most Census Bureau calls asking you to participate in a survey other than the 2020 Census originate from one of the following numbers: If you receive a call from the Census Bureau and you would like to independently verify that the number is from the Census Bureau, you can call one of the following numbers: Field representatives who do in-person interviews may also call you. Many people I know who voted for this man are now regretting it. Do not give them your info! Your response to the 2020 Census cannot replace your answers to these other surveys. Your household or business may be selected to participate in a survey. Your answers help produce accurate, reliable statistics on employment, infrastructure, education, economic opportunities, and other important characteristics of your community. Now the latest. Just sit there and think a minute on what we have in this country and you should feel very ashamed for getting so upset about such petty things. Beyond principle, I work in the defense of our nation as a senior leader and have good reason to be concerned. Some of you who refuse to return your forms could possibly look at it from a different angle. I took his form and tossed it into the wood stove. We aren't answering these questions for anyone unless they show up and arrest me and a judge makes me do it in court. "Your mobile app doesn't work well." My husband and I now know what we will do when a rep shows up at our door. It's the amendments that congress is busy adding to the original Constitution while you guys are busy working, fishing, etc., instead of watching congressional actions on C Span or some such that are killing us and our rights. I plead the 5th amendment because the government can ask legally, according to the attorneys office, but I can also remain silent legally. She was a little surprised how I knew things about her. I wish you luck. Yesterday, a lady came by and tried to ask questions about the form. Other articles have slanted this to be a case of "men marrying into money. The census worker also tried to "bait" me into giving false answers by saying "just answer the question anyway you like even if it's not true." Well it's now the middle of July and another census worker left her callback info on the door and has since started calling the number on the "for sale" sign at the property. I will fill in my name, address, and very few pieces of information. Pew Research Center has deep roots in U.S. public opinion research. Lock I agree with telling I live here, how many live here, as it's just counting folks to help with how many people have how many reps in congress and Senate. Bring it on ACB enumeratorsgo ahead, make my day!! With a president and congress that constantly lie about everything, how do they expect me to believe that the information on the Census form is truly confidential? I'm paid 400 goats and a chest of elderberries in barter for my services. I suppose if they have the info to redistrict, they have all the info they need. At what location did this person work last week? Think anyone is going to get approval to send out US Marshals to issue tickets? However, we will make it quite clear we will accept the risk and continue to take this stand. (Same woman who was no longer employed with the census). I very much doubt. I don't owe the government anything for going to college. That alone, in the wrong hands; is reason NOT to respond to such a blatant abuse of power. Anything that you answer can be used for this book, which is usually for your town, county, etc. On saturday he returned but I did not answer the door. My sister and I are fuming over these forms. Since then I have been visited a few times by a nice Dept. lets hope this isn't all to simply mark people who do and do not comply. The American Community Survey is part of the decennial census, and replaces the census "long form" that previously was sent to a percentage of households once every 10 years. We didn't receive phone calls first, we had two visits at 7 p.m. from this lady with her little laptop. Just throw the census form in the trash. The small, everyday, humdrum, quietly approved bills they do each day are where the danger lies and more attention should be paid to those. Don't remember getting the long form but if I did, I would have tossed it unopened since I already did my duty filling out the census and mailing it in. Still, some citizens do not answer it. By their asking their questions (limited to how many people live here) you have "met" your legal obligation to the Census. Ultimately, you might just need to either answer the census to get them to stop coming or, as an alternative, make up answers to protect your privacy. The state police will show up and *escort* them off your property. Those of you who are interested just might try at least the internet to find out what this is all about. At the time of the survey . I filled out the form only giving the required information by law and that is how many people live here. I was told that they get thousands of calls per day of people complaining about the ACS. I hope this helps. Why am I being contacted again? Whose damn business is it if I own my house and whether I have a mortgage? This is Government out of control. Do you think Cass Sunstein knowing how many people, of what age, have physical and emotional disabilities is for the benefit of your family? I got another call tonight, but was not here to take the call. Of course I had, but she got snotty like I was lying and said we would have to fill it out over again right-here-right-now. 10. I worked as an enumerator for the 2000 Census. The Census Bureau may follow up with you regarding the information you provided. So keep your information private and don't give in. The information from the Census should suffice for the allotment of federal funds for schools and roads. Fine, sue me, I dare you, but stop holding me hostage in my home. I guess all the info requested I am OK with. For years I've been very concerned about the direction that our country has been taking. When respondents are sent surveys via email, they can choose whether to continue to fill them or ask to be removed from the list of people invited as survey respondents. No reason to be rude to someone doing their job. The Census Bureau takes measures to reduce the number of surveys you may be selected to participate in, but it is still possible that you could be selected for more than one. I had the misfortune of getting an ACS survey a few years ago. So they bully and threaten and use fear to scare people into compliance. Survey Design and Methods. Rather, the data we collect is only used to create statistics. This is just crap. More money from the government for that extra lane of highway to make my commute faster. I say "sorry sir no one here is available and you need to leave." No one from the Census has ever called you every hour of the day or at 9 p.m. What a waste of taxpayer dollars our government is spending having these census takers harass us. what is this country coming to? Do they ever stop with this? She said they don't do that. Helping this corrupt government "function" is the same thing as helping this corrupt government go kill more people, invade our privacy, tax our income, levy fines, issue permissions slips and tattoo our butts. i love my country and its freedom and its up to us to keep the communism out!! Well the federal government is functioning way beyond its legal powers and I will not feed that machine. Analyze the responses. I was going to fill it out and check "race: other, American" but now I just don't even want to fill the dang thing out. The Census sites say as much if you read them, something like 'well wee don't really want to fine anyone'. I told this supervisor that no one came by my home. Keep your posts coming! Now who you work for, when you go to work, how much you make; is all stored in a government database. 65% of companies measure NPS compared with 44% that measure CSAT and 14% that measure CES. !Now I have to pay for temp workers who have my private info to sell overseas maybe???? "Isn't that enough?" She was really trying to get the information and finally gave up and told me she will write down that I refused. If they are "anonymous" why do they need my name, telephone number and race? I mentioned to a reporter for the newspaper the similarity between our government today and Hitler and he said some not so nice things to me. But not so with us. I have now been visited six times already. How much do I make per year? What are you all so worried about? While talking to the ACS lady on the phone I found out they didn't have a complete address and had sent me a form. I just got my request from ACS today, late july 2010. I will not comply. 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